We appreciate the comments from Dr. Jha. According to the study protocol, all patients received a cardiac output monitor aiming to optimize fluid status and cardiac index. Therefore, as our data show, with norepinephrine or vasopressin, we did not observe either a reduction in the cardiac index or a worsening of tissue perfusion and oxygenation parameters as lactate and central venous oxygen saturation.1  Furthermore, the incidence of low cardiac output and cardiogenic shock in the norepinephrine and vasopressin groups was not different. We attribute this to the fact that we assessed the fluid status and used inotropes regularly, in accordance with an established protocol of care. Dobutamine is our inotrope of choice in vasoplegic syndrome because both levosimendan and milrinone have inherent vasodilating properties that result in hypotension in these cases. In the Vasopressin and Septic Shock Trial (VASST) substudy, Gordon et al. showed similar effects of both vasopressin and norepinephrine in septic shock patients in hemodynamic and cardiovascular biomarkers.2  We postulate that vasopressin is as safe as norepinephrine in terms of cardiovascular effects in this group of patients, because we correct hypotension early and adequately monitor these patients in anticipation of inotropes needing a correction in fluid deficit.

We also appreciate the comments from Drs. Fan and Faraday about our article. They raised concerns about the doses and efficiency of the study vasopressor. The drug concentration we used was a final blind solution of either 0.12 U/ml vasopressin or 120 μg/ml norepinephrine. The vasopressor infusion was titrated to maintain a mean arterial pressure of at least 65 mmHg. This does not mean that our patients used the highest dosage of drugs; however, if the arterial pressure targets were not reached, the trained physicians and nurses titrated the drugs according to protocol. All patients were monitored with a minimally invasive cardiac output monitor, a protocol of volume status analysis was done regularly, and a bolus of fluids was administered if there was prediction of fluid responsiveness. We do not believe that we should compare our patients with patients from the VASST and Ventricular Tachycardia Ablation versus Escalated Antiarrhythmic Drug Therapy in Ischemic Heart Disease trials; these trials included patients with septic shock who were already resuscitated and the VASST included only patients after norepinephrine infusion.2,3  On the other hand, we included patients in the acute phase of vasoplegic shock after cardiac surgery. Most included patients did not reach the maximum dosage, but considering the severity of this syndrome and the need to target a mean arterial pressure, these doses were allowed by the protocol.

We report mortality rates in our study of 15.9% in the norepinephrine group and 15.4% in the vasopressin group. We agree that the expected mortality of cardiac patients with a baseline EuroSCORE of 5 is about 5%. However, this prediction does not address the outcomes of vasoplegic syndrome. Patients with vasoplegic syndrome have mortality rates of about 15 to 20%.4,5 

We do not agree with Fan and Faraday that the clinical treatment of patients in our study was not protocolized. As already mentioned, intraoperative and postoperative fluid management, erythrocyte transfusion, and inotrope use were protocolized in both groups. There was no difference between groups in cardiac index and in the incidence of cardiac output and cardiogenic shock. Cardiac index and other hemodynamic data are described in eTable 5 of the Supplemental Digital Content of the original publication (https://links.lww.com/ALN/B337).1  These data are similar to the data published by Gordon et al. in a substudy of VASST, which show the cardiac safety of vasopressin as compared to norepinephrine.6 

In addition, we appreciate the comments from Drs. James and Amour about our article. They raised concerns about the modification of the primary outcome. In the design phase of the study, we selected Brussels criteria as the primary outcome because it was similar to a landmark trial that compared vasopressin added to noradrenaline versus noradrenaline alone in septic shock patients (VASST).3  However, in February 2013, before any study analysis had been undertaken, trial leadership decided to modify the endpoint without knowledge of the endpoint or related trial data results. The reason for this change was that few outcome data on vasoplegic patients were available in the literature at that time; therefore, the trial leadership considered it appropriate to select the modified Society of Thoracic Surgeons Score, which had been recently demonstrated to better measure outcomes in the field of cardiac surgery.7  When this change was made, 81 patients were included in the study and the database had not been analyzed. An amendment was added to the study protocol, the ethics committee approved it, and we registered the change in Clinicaltrials.gov. In addition, the original primary outcome data (“days alive and free of organ dysfunction during the first 28 days according to the Brussels criteria”) were also analyzed and are reported in table 7 of our original article, confirming a statistically significant decrease in acute renal failure in the vasopressin group as compared to the norepinephrine group.1 

Regarding the concern about the incidence of previous renal dysfunction in the study patients, we should emphasize that according to the recommendation of the Consolidated Standards of Reporting Trials, “significance testing of baseline differences in randomized controlled trials should not be performed, because it is superfluous and can mislead investigators and their readers.”8  We report the statistical test here, comparing the incidence of chronic renal dysfunction and showing no difference between groups (29.1% in the norepinephrine group vs. 24.8% in the vasopressin group, P = 0.401); therefore, we do not believe it has altered the results of acute renal failure in these patients.

Regarding the concern about the postrandomization exclusions, we did not include 30 patients in the analysis because they were not eligible for randomization according to the study’s inclusion/exclusion criteria, they never received the masked trial drug, and they were equally distributed between groups and therefore did not bias outcome ascertainment. This is acceptable according to Fergusson et al., who wrote that “data on patients who were prematurely randomized and so did not receive an intervention can be excluded, as long as allocation to treatment arm cannot influence the likelihood that patients receive the intervention.”9  In VASST, this criteria of postrandomization exclusion was also used without compromising the results.3 

The authors declare no competing interests.

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